First, let’s be clear: The new MacPro is not yet shipping. So, like a group of blind folks describing an elephant, we are getting a lot of different opinions on what this new animal is.
Second, the instant Apple revealed it at the WWDC last spring, I wanted one.
Third, buying new hardware is stressful and expensive; especially when it comes to hardware essential to our business.
So, the question I want to answer today is: Since I need to save my pennies to buy this, where do I get the best bang for the buck? And my answers are the same if I were working with Final Cut Pro X, Adobe Premiere CC, or audio editing in ProTools or Audition.
If money means nothing to you, then buy the system with all the bells and whistles. Then, sit back and smirk while the rest of us hate you. For most of us, buying hardware is a trade-off between what we want and what we can afford. In other words, if finding the balance between the best performance at the best price is important to you, this article is for you.
BACKGROUND
Last week, Apple posted more details about the MacPro (including performance and tech specs): http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
They also announced two configurations: a four-core CPU system starting at $2,999 and a six-core CPU system starting at $3,999. Within those two categories, Apple has not yet announced any other options or pricing. The MacPro is scheduled to ship in December. No date was announced.
Based on what we know, there are five areas we can spend money on with this unit:
So, given these choices, where should we spend our money?
WHERE’S THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK?
Surprisingly, it isn’t the CPU. Any CPU today can easily edit video – even high-resolution video. If you are editing single stream video, even high-resolution, the four-core system will be more than adequate. More cores will be helpful with multicam editing.
Because rendering and exporting is off-loaded to the GPU, a screamingly-fast CPU is not as important as it was in years past. Again, more cores and faster CPU speed is nice, but no longer essential. There are better places to put your money.
Specifically, the best place to spend your money is on the GPU. Get the fastest one you can afford, with as much VRAM as possible. Whether you are editing with Premiere Pro CC or Final Cut Pro X, both max out GPU performance.
RAM is user-upgradeable. This means that you can buy less than you might ultimately need, then upgrade as RAM prices come down and third-party vendors provide reliable upgrades. For me, I’d start with a minimum of 8 GB, then add RAM via third-parties.
NOTE: I don’t expect a lot of RAM options to be available at launch. It will probably take suppliers like Kingston – www.kingston.com – or Crucial – www.crucial.com – a while to ramp up to meet demand.
SECOND NOTE: I spoke with the folks at Kingston earlier today, who told me that, according to the specs of the MacPro: “It can take [RAM] up to 1866MHz in speed, and up to 16GB modules in each of the four slots. We will have memory for this. [Since] the product will be released in December we don’t have an ETA on our memory yet.”
STORAGE
The Mac Pro supports up to 1 TB of SSD (Solid State Drive) storage. First, you don’t need that much, and second, I’m not convinced SSDs are the way to go for media. Instead, an SSD drive is ideally suited for the boot drive. I have an SSD-enhanced iMac (a Fusion drive) that goes from powered off to fully operational in nine seconds. I expect the MacPro to be even faster.
SSD drives are ideal for files that are accessed over and over. This means that you get the best performance when accessing operating system and application files. This also means that you don’t need to get the biggest SSD; the OS and applications you get will never fill it.
Let me give you a specific example. On my current MacPro, my Application folder contains the entire Adobe CS6 and CC Suites, plus the entire Final Cut Studio (3) Suite, FCP X, and every plug-in and software gewgaw known to the mind of man. And the total Application folder takes only 42 GB to store.
In fact, everything on my boot drive – EVERYTHING – is only 220 GB. (And that includes a desktop folder that holds more files than I will ever admit to storing in public.) A boot drive of 250 GB is more than adequate for the OS and applications.
NOTE: There’s an axiom in the storage business that the faster a unit transfers data, the less data it can hold and the more it costs.
Rather than buy a large, internal SSD drive, I plan to spend a small fortune on a high-speed, fully-loaded Thunderbolt RAID 5 with a minimum of 8 drives. THAT provides all the storage and performance I need — even for editing 2K multicam clips containing up to 30 angles!
Think about it. Shoots are creating more and more media. My recent 13-episode 2 Reel Guys shoot geneerated 1.5 TB of data. There is no reason this should be stored on a boot drive. External media is plenty fast, holds a ton of media and can be easily transported from one place to another.
Spend your money on external storage, not the internal SSD drive.
A NOTE ON SPEED
Simply connecting a single hard drive to a computer via Thunderbolt does NOT mean you are getting Thunderbolt speeds. Just the opposite. As a rough measure, a spinning hard disk that is not enhanced with a small internal SSD booster, can read and write data about 120 MB/second, whether it is connected by USB 3 or Thunderbolt. (FireWire, by contrast, slows the drive down to about 80 MB/second.)
This means that in order to get the speed you expect from a Thunderbolt connection, you need to keep combining drives in a single unit (which is what a RAID is). To fully saturate (fill) a Thunderbolt 2 pipe, you would need a RAID containing about 20 drives!
A THOUGHT ON SLOTS
There’s been a lot of complaining about the lack of PCIe slots on the MacPro. I’m sympathetic, but, frankly, I’m not bothered by this.
Every significant vendor who supplies hardware to the Mac community is working on Thunderbolt devices. AJA, ATTO, Blackmagic Design, Matrox, Sonnet — all of them. Why? Because Thunderbolt devices are easier to install, configure, and, most importantly, support.
Plus, the new hardware data bus inside the Mac Pro is faster than the PCIe bus we’ve been using in current MacPros.
NOTE: For those with significant investments in PCIe cards, Sonnet has announced an expansion chassis that holds the cards and converts the interface into Thunderbolt 2.
For me, the simplicity of plugging in what I need and getting on with my work FAR outweighs the slight performance increase that might be obtained by custom-building a system. (Then, again, I’ve never been fascinated by doing my own home or car repairs. Others, though, find it fascinating. Each to his own.) I prefer getting work done to wasting time configuring; and Thunderbolt 2 is so blazingly fast, that I don’t expect to ever fully utilize it; even for high-resolution media.
SUMMARY
I plan to buy a new Mac Pro the week they ship, though probably not the first day. (As I’ve written before, I prefer to let someone else intercept the first arrows.)
I’ll spend more money on the GPU than the CPU. And I’m already looking for storage for this system. As we get closer, I’ll let you know what I decide to buy and how I configured it.
As always, I’m interested in your opinions.
Larry
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← Older Comments Newer Comments →Hallelujah.
Thanks Mr. jordan
1. can you daisy chain the new mac pro and how can you use the CPU for multiple editors working on the same project
2. how many 2K or 4K displays can you possibly connect for installations involving multiple displays
3. can you update / replace the graphics card
4. what about the NEW FCP X … being feature film ready and PROFESSIONAL
any ideas?
Spiro:
I don’t know all these answers, but…
1. The MacPro is for one user at a time.
2. Apple says three 4K monitors can be connected.
3. I’ve read rumors that the graphic card can be updated, but I don’t know for sure
4. “Professional” is a very squirrelly term – we shall have to wait and see what Apple releases.
Larry
Following up on your recs to spend on video and an outboard RAID – so, you’d recommend the 4 core with the most powerful video chip available? I’d be cutting using AVID MC7 and the Adobe CC suite plus a few oddball utilities – 1080p30 for now, 4K down the road. I have a number of legacy FW800/USB3 RocStor drives which I imagine I’ll chain on one of the Thunderbolt ports using an adaptor, and go TB2 RAID in the future. Dual Apple TB monitors for now? TIA for your advice…
Ferdydurke:
AT THE MOMENT… before these systems ship… as I am reflecting on this a bit (in other words, I may change my mind after the systems are released)… I am leaning toward getting the 6-core processor with a top line GPU.
I’d migrate all my FireWire data to a multi-drive Thunderbolt RAID simply for performance reasons.
Monitors I haven’t thought about.
Larry
Actually, if you have any MacBook Pro with an optical drive, you can use Other World Computing’s Data Doubler to replace your optical drive w/an HD or SSD. I know several people who do this precisely to keep media files off the boot drive for editing, as the optical drive is of less importance to them relative to the inconvenience of carrying around even a small external drive. (IMHO, I don’t see an SSD as worth the $$ in this media application.)
Sadly — very sadly — Jony Ive’s hell-bent-for-leather drive towards slimmer, lighter MBPs, coupled with Apple’s belief/desire that everyone lives in a world of ubiquitous connectivity (ie, everyone’s streaming, vs watching/burning discs), has led to the elimination of optical drives from every Apple product currently shipping, save a low-end 13″ MBP and the old Mac Pro.
Which is why you’ll find me hanging onto my late-2011 MBP ’til they pry it from my cold, dead hands!
– Dan
Considering the emphasis on GPU power, does the new Mac Pro fall short for Premiere users? AMD chips have long lagged behind NVIDIA, especially in their integration with Adobe products. Does it make more sense to go PC for a Premiere workstation with Apple now firmly planted in the AMD camp?
Nick:
My understanding is that these AMD chips are seriously fast. However, we won’t be able to compare them to NVIDIA until the Mac Pro actually ships.
Larry
Adobe uses OpenCL as well as CUDA for GPU acceleration, so in theory at least, the GPUs should work just fine for Adobe work.
I think my question is still whether there’s enough computer configured in front of those GPUs to actually utilize them to their potential. Powerful GPUs are wonderful, but if they are waiting for data to come from the rest of the machine because the configuration can’t queue data as fast as the GPUs process it, then you have money invested in hardware that isn’t producing results.
On paper at least, a computer with one CPU (even as robust as these are…) and two monster GPUs appears to be potentially out of balance.
Only time will tell if Apple has devised a way to utilize these GPUs efficiently which defies standard orthodoxy…though they seem to have defied standard orthodoxy once or twice in the past with some success…
Larry, a bit off topic, but I can’t spring for this new MacPro (but we all wish we could). I do need to upgrade to a new Mac of some kind and FCPX. So my question is simple. Planning on editing only standard HD video from a JVC GY HM150u which is 35mbps in EXCAM format wrapped in QT so it plays nicely with Apple and FCPX, which way would you go, MacBook Pro or iMac? And would the 21.5″ iMac with 1GB VRAM be good enough for most things like 8 layers or so of blue/green screen video? With the possible expansion eventually to using a Panasonic Lumix which shoots up to 70mbps, I definitely plan on that JVC camera as my main camera.
I know I need a TB or two of media to write to as well, but what might your system look like if NOT shooting 4k was in the cards for you? Would you go MacBook Pro or iMac?
Thanks!