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I have eagerly looked forward to the Thunderbolt-based Drobo 5D since it was first announced last July. This week, the good folks at Drobo offered to send me a 5D for a few days to review, and I’ve spent the last two days working with it.
For my testing, I used a one-year old MacBook Pro with 8 GB of RAM and OS 10.8.2. I used both the AJA System Test utility and Activity Monitor to measure data speeds.
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
The Drobo 5D is an easy-to-use, expandable RAID-5-like device that provides capacity, data protection, and performance sufficient for almost every video editing task. It is not the fastest RAID available, but for most editors, it doesn’t need to be.
BACKGROUND
I’ve used and reviewed Drobo storage for several years. My first Drobo was the original FireWire, 5-bay unit; which I’ve since given to my son.
Currently, my company uses a maxed-out DroboElite, which I purchased about a year ago. This is attached to our network switch via iSCSI and accessed via Ethernet as network-attached storage (NAS). While I am grateful for the 18 TB of online storage space, the performance of the DroboElite over the network is too slow for video editing.
NOTE: Video editing is THE most taxing task we can do on a computer. It demands fast computers, fast storage, and extremely efficient system components to handle the massive amounts of data flowing through the system in real-time. However, the heart to efficient video editing lies in the storage system.
Drobo is justifiably famous for manufacturing gear that is easy to use, expandable, and allows you to mix-and-match drives as your resources allow. It is impossible to overstate how unique this flexibility is in the market today. All other RAID vendors require you to decide total capacity when you buy the RAID, and any upgrades require getting all new hardware.
NOTE: The Drobo 5D is similar to a RAID-5. Read this for a description of what RAID levels mean, as well as other general definitions. Drobo uses a technology called “BeyondRAID,” which you can learn about here.
SETUP
The Drobo 5D arrived in two boxes: one containing the Drobo itself, and the other containing the hard drives to go in it. However, I didn’t need the drives as I had five 2 TB Seagate drives just sitting around after a recent upgrade to the DroboElite, so I used my own drives for the test.
With the exception of Apple, no one understands how to make technology friendly and accessible like Drobo. From the nice cloth bag containing the unit, to the casual writing style of the Quick Start Guide, Drobo wants to do more than make this hardware a part of your computer system; Drobo wants to be your friend. After wading though far too many opaque setup guides, I like this approach. Anything that decreases my stress in setting up a new piece of gear is a good thing.
There are exactly two cables to connect: power and Thunderbolt. It is impossible to screw up these connections. However, I would really like a twist-lock power connector to keep it from accidentally disconnecting simply because the cord got bumped, which happened to me during testing. The power supply is a small black box that sits on the floor.
The front cover is attached magnetically, which I like a lot. Pull the front cover off and slide in the drives. The screen shot below shows the working end of the Drobo.
NOTE: Someone was paying attention to fan noise. The unit is not soundless, but it is quiet and two people in the office commented that the fan noise had a pleasing sound to it. The Thunderbolt cable is 6 feet long, so you can move the unit somewhat away from your work area.
NOTE: While the Drobo 5D can work with half-height drives, Drobo does not recommend using them. They work fine, but they don’t fit snugly. Also, while full-height drives are manufactured to meet a common design standard, that is not true of half-height drives. Some hard drive vendors move the positions of the data connectors. My suggestion is to stay with standard, full-height, SATA drives; which can be found everywhere.
Drobo provides a very clear, simple, QuickStart guide to get you started in the right direction. Drives slide in easily, cables attach quickly, and the SSD card goes into the bottom without any problems.
Setup is truly simple. If I was starting with a clean system, I would be up and running in about five minutes after opening the box.
However, for me, once everything was connected and powered on, the problems started. The unit was not recognized by my Mac. Red lights next to all drives. Dead. Sigh…
This pointed out three valuable lessons:
I contacted tech support and over the course of the next 24 hours, I learned the following:
Once we figured out the problem was outdated Dashboard software, getting everything else to work took a couple of minutes. (In fact, during my testing, I added drives, reformatted the Drobo, and reset the entire system in a matter of 20-30 seconds.)
Personally, I love blinking lights and the Drobo has four sets:
WHAT’S THIS SSD THING?
One of the new buzz words in storage is “hybrid-drive.” This is a combination of an SSD drive for speed and spinning hard disks for low-cost and large storage. As illustrated here, Drobo has added an SSD card slot to the 5D; specifically this is the 60 GB card shipped with the unit I received for testing.
SSD drives provide a SIGNIFICANT performance boost if you are working with small files over and over, or doing lots of database transactions. Files stored on the SSD are accessed FAR faster than files on the hard disk.
What Drobo has done is added intelligence to deciding which files to store on the SSD. Files you use more are automatically moved to the SSD. This is the same concept as Apple’s Fusion drive in that it speeds things up automatically. There’s no configuration and nothing to adjust.
The chip is stored in the bottom of the Drobo and can easily be installed by the end user, as you can see in the photo above. It can just as easily be updated as larger sizes become available.
If you are buying the Drobo 5D, buy the card. You’ll see why in a moment.
BIG NOTE: Because of the BeyondRAID technology used by Drobo, while adding the SSD card in the bottom slot definitely speeds performance, replacing the standard hard drives in the unit with SSD drives will not significantly improve performance. For the best balance between performance and cost, configure the Drobo with the SSD card and standard hard drives.
ONE OTHER COOL THING
Using the Drobo Dashboard (Settings > General) you can set whether you want the Drobo to protect your data in case one drive fails (the equivalent of RAID-5) or two drives fail (the equivalent of RAID-6).
Plus, you can determine how long the drive will wait before it spins down. For best performance set this to Never. For best energy savings, set this to 15 minutes. And, you can determine how bright the lights are.
TESTED PERFORMANCE
One of the benefits to a Drobo is that you can start with only two drives – though I strongly recommend starting with three because the speed benefit is significant – then add more drives as your needs and budget allow. This expandability is one of the hallmarks of Drobo.
Drobo has published performance specs here:
http://www.drobo.com/how-it-works/performance-professional.php
I decided to run three tests, using two configurations:
What I did for each test:
Empty hard drives are the fastest. The fuller a hard disk gets, the slower it goes. So, I wanted the Drobo to be empty to test for the maximum speed.
My expectations were that I would see about 100 MB/second of data transfer speed per installed drive. As you can see from the table below, the Drobo fell far short of my expectations.
Write Without SSD | Write With SSD | Read Without SSD | Read With SSD | |
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3 Drives | 110 MB/sec | 264 MB/sec | 132 MB/sec | 158 MB/sec |
4 Drives | 133 MB/sec | 183 MB/sec | 83 MB/sec | 95 MB/sec |
5 Drives | 190 MB/sec | 202 MB/sec | 154 MB/sec | 180 MB/sec |
Two notes: 1. Speed is highly dependent upon file size, keep reading to learn more. 2.There is “measured” performance and “real-world” performance, which I’ll talk about that in the next section.
NOTE: The SSD made the biggest difference in speeding recording to the hard disk. Unless you are working with the same media over and over, the SSD won’t make much difference in playback speed.
This screen shot shows the results of five hard drives running without the SSD card. Notice how the speeds improve as file size increases.
NOTE: I modified the layout of the test results to fit into a smaller space. The left column indicates the file size being transferred. The center column shows the Read (playback) speed for that file size. The right column shows the Write (record) speed for that file size.
This screen shot shows the results from five drives with the SSD card. The difference is striking.
I was also struck by the difference in speeds as the file size changed. In this screen shot, I’m using five drives with the SSD. Notice that while write (recording) speed remains relatively constant, the read speed dramatically improves as the file size gets larger. (This is a graph of the numbers displayed in the screen shot above.)
This tends to suggest that because video editing works with larger files, you should expect better performance. Still, I was surprised and disappointed that the measured speeds were far less than I was expecting.
NOTE: By way of comparison, a FireWire 800 drive has a speed around 85 MB/second. A two-drive G-Technology RAID-0 (which has no data redundancy) measures around 275 MB/second.
UPDATE – 12/8/12
One other thing I noticed after I wrote this review. When I connect both a Drobo and a G-Technology Thunderbolt RAID at the same time, the connecting order makes a difference. If you connect the G-Technology to the computer and the Drobo to the G-Tech, there is about a 25% drop in write speed, and a 10% drop in read speed. The G-Tech did not change speed based upon connection order.
I contacted Drobo about this and they told me: “Per Thunderbolt specifications, Drobo is passing-thru traffic without impedance in your testing, where the G-Tech adds impedance in your findings.” In other words, data is traveling through the Thunderbolt ports of the G-Tech slower than it is through the Drobo. To minimize this speed drop, connect the Drobo directly to the computer.
REAL-WORLD PERFORMANCE
As I was researching this article, I spoke with Mario Blandini, VP of Marketing for Drobo about this. He said: “Overall, Drobo is not going to be faster on streaming (read or write) than other devices in the market. Our newest Drobos are dramatically faster than the prior generations, and fast enough for many to have a great experience using them in their workflow. On pure benchmarking though, Drobo will not be the fastest.”
I agree that the new Drobo is MUCH faster than earlier Drobos, so, rather than asking simply “How fast is the Drobo 5D,” I decided to ask the question a different way: “Is the Drobo 5D fast enough for video editing?”
And here, the answer is yes, with a few qualifications. Let me explain.
First, I decided to see how it would do duplicating clips. In this example, I am duplicating three 31 GB files using the Finder. The Drobo duplicates the files around 110 MB/second, which is about the speed of an internal hard drive on a MacPro. Not bad, not great.
If you are doing regular video editing by dropping clips to the Timeline, the Drobo is plenty fast. At most, you would need 20-30 MB/second of data, so the Drobo has speed to spare. This screen shot illustrates an XDCAM 720p/60 clip playing in the Timeline, with about a jillion edits in it.
In other words, the Drobo can easily handle normal editing.
The REAL challenge becomes multicam editing. In this screen shot, I built an eight-angle, XDCAM 720p/60 multicam Timeline in Final Cut Pro X, and edited the heck out of it.
The data rate is fairly low and the edits were smooth. Zero dropped frames. The Drobo performed perfectly.
This time, I decided to create a ten-camera ProRes 422 720p/60 multicam clip.
NOTE: ProRes 422 is the video format Final Cut Pro X uses when optimizing media during import.
Here, the data rates tripled, but FCP X played everything smoothly, no dropped frames and the Drobo had the speed to support this as well. So, based upon what I saw, for most normal video editing tasks and multicam editing up to about 10 angles, the Drobo 5D should be fine. If you need faster performance, you should consider other gear.
However, I was never able to get performance that ever exceeded 300 MB/second. Perhaps, when all data is stored in the SSD this is possible, but this is not a likely scenario for video editing.
NOTE: One of the reasons Drobo is slower than other RAIDS is that, in order to enable the expansion and flexibility that it is famous for, it can’t use a hardware-based RAID controller. Because the RAID is built in software, pure performance will always be slower than a hardware-based RAID.
WHAT TOOK DROBO SO LONG?
Earlier today, I spoke with Tom Coughlin, President of Coughlin Associates, a firm that specializes in tracking the storage industry. I asked him why Thunderbolt was so slow in rolling out. Tom told me that it was a case of the industry needing to understand a complex new data protocol.
Also, adding to manufacture’s delays is a Thunderbolt Certification process that requires both Intel and Apple to sign-off on all new storage devices.
I asked Mario Blandini about the certification process and he pointed out that both the 5D and the Drobo Mini are Thunderbolt-certified. “When you are dealing with something as critical as storage, you really need to be sure that the hardware works properly with all the other hardware that’s out there,” he said.
MY RECOMMENDATION
If you are looking for the fastest-possible RAID, the Drobo 5D is not it. However, you only need that speed if you are editing large multicam events with video stored in ProRes format.
If you need to save money, buy three drives. If you want the fastest performance, buy five drives. I was very disappointed with the performance of the unit when only four drives were installed, so avoid this configuration. I also recommend against the 2 drive configuration, which will not have performance sufficient for video editing.
Also, buy the SSD card. In all cases, even for very large files, this improves performance. The price of the system that I tested (remember, I provided my own hard drives) was $849.
If you are looking for a reasonably fast, highly-expandable, Thunderbolt RAID-5, the Drobo 5D is an excellent choice.
115 Responses to Product Review: Drobo 5D
← Older Comments Newer Comments →Now you’ve got me interested in testing the speed of my 5D. Is there a utility one can download to run such sets? Thanks.
Activity Monitor, which is in your Utilities folder.
Blackmagic Disk Speed Test, available for free in the Mac App Store.
AJA System Test, available from http://www.aja.com – also free.
Larry
195 Write, 224 Read. Three 3TB Seagate drives with 60GB mSata SSD accelerator card.
I’m thinking of buying this product, but it seems to perform way under what it should in Raid5 should be 500GB/S read write with 5(7200rpm) drives. From what I understand it’s software raid which I thought was a no go with RAID5. Does anyone have the 5D setup in RAID0? interested to see the speed in a RAID0, it should be 600GB/sec read/write
Chris:
Drobo takes a different approach from other RAIDS. It emphasizes expandability and security, rather than speed. You can start using a Drobo with three drives – each of different storage sizes. — say 500 GB, 3 TB, and 1 TB. Then, as you needs grow, swap out or add another drive WITHOUT needing to reformat the whole system. Plug the new drive in and, within a minute, you have access to the new storage – still in RAID 5 configuration.
Swap out a 1 TB drive for a 3 TB drive – instantly more storage! Drobo is applying very sophisticate drive virtualization technology to make this possible. The slow speed is caused by its RAID controller, which is software. In talking with Drobo, they told me that because the RAID controller is software, they can get the flexibility and expandability, but at a trade off with performance.
For pure speed, Drobo is not the best choice. But, for people on a budget, who want RAID 5 protection, adequate speed, and unlimited expandability in the future, Drobo is an excellent choice.
Larry
Larry:
Thanks for getting back to me.
Have you tried the 5D in a RAID0? If it works like disk utility it should give you 500+readwrite. For the stuff I edit I do need 500MB/sec read/write. I don’t care much for the security as I have another drive setup for backup. I’m looking for a cheaper alternative to the pegasus, and the new Lacie 5Big thunderbolt. Something within one box, but I keep on coming back to the idea of a thunderbolt to mini-sas to 4 or 8 bay hard drive array.
I just had a quick look at the Drobo interface, I don’t even see the option for RAID0, Guess the 5D is out for me. Thanks again for your reply Larry.
Chris:
You are correct. Drobo can only be configured as RAID 5.
Larry
FYI follow on Drobo 5D – they shipped replacement drive and it runs GREAT (was defective unit) they replaced at no cost via FedEx
I’m Happy Camper now with Drobo
Hi Larry,
I’m looking at buying the mini for editing on the road. Do you have any experience with the mini? Will be editing ProRes 720p 120fps mostly on a MBP Retina 2,6GHz.
Thanks
The Mac Mini has a very underpowered graphics card, which will make editing AVCHD and H.264 formats, as well as transcoding them, very slow. Check Apple’s website before making any decisions:
http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs/
Larry
Hi Larry, I meant the Drobo mini 😉
Ah – I wasn’t paying attention to what article the comment was in. Sorry.
As long as you are not doing heavy multicam work – more than 4 cameras – the Drobo Mini should be fine.
Larry
Thank you Larry 🙂
Hello larry,
This is Really a great Review.
Wow this is an really looking great product that to with 5D technology this surelly going to rock the world with its great technological review. It had all the great experience to me when i was using it.
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HI Larry,
I was very pleased to come across this review. I run a small production company and I have been looking at purchasing an older Drobo 4-Bay. It sounds like you have a lot of experience with Drobo so I am hoping I can pick your brains.
All I am looking for is a storage solution to archive completed projects. I don’t intend to edit direct from the Drobo – I just need a repository where I can dump rushes, production files and digital master files once projects are complete.
To date I have been backing up using external hard drives but I would like something more robust that will give me peace of mind. Now almost all my rushes come in as files (no more tapes for me) I need lot more space.
The big question I have is what happens if the Drobo unit itself fails? If I were to remove a hard drive and stick in a computer, would the machine be able to access the files, or can the drives only be read from another Drobo unit?
I would very much appreciate your advice on this. Thanks.
The Drobo would be a good repository, not good for editing, great for storing.
And a Drobo disk is only readable in a Drobo device.
Larry
@Chris Brooke – If your actual Drobo fails, You can literally take out your disk pack and put them into a new drobo…
it does have to be a drobo and one that is same firmware (or newer) and listed as compatible on their website.
I’m a heavy Drobo user (4x Drobo S and 2x Drobo 5D). My Drobo S has completely failed on me before, I bought their Drobo care and they sent me a new drobo. I simply put in the Drives from the old one (while it was off) and powered it on and everything worked…
I was always still nervous about Drobo because it was software RAID – BUT after my DROBO unit failed and some of my harddrives have failed and i’m STILL a happy camper, I’m very confident with drobo now!!!
Larry,
Are there “Best Practices” you would suggest for editing/storing “in-use video files” while using the Drobo?
I ask because (above) you say don’t use it for editing- just storage.
However, when we edit with FCP, our video files are on the Drobo.
When we compress, it’s taking days (literally). I thought the Drobo would be practical for editing and I am wondering if this is the culprit.
Are you saying all editing should be “local” (on our internal drives) and the autosave vault should be on the Drobo?
What “storage” are you suggesting for the Drobo?
Alicia:
There’s not a perfect answer here – and you didn’t specify which model Drobo you are using.
In general, having video files stored locally and NOT on the boot drive is better than accessing video files stored remotely. However, compression speed is NOT determined by the speed of your storage. If you are taking days to compress something, there is something wrong with your compression settings.
Larry
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I am new to Apple; long time Windows type. Bought a MacBook Pro Retina 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 Memory, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650m 1024MB running OX x10. Thought I would store video, music and pictures on a 3T Time Capsule. Have Black Magic with Thunderbolt connected to a Blue Ray/VCR combo to grab all the old VCR tapes of kids, training DVDs, etc. for video. Scanner for Pictures, plus already digital ones. USB Turntable for old records plus already digital ones. All that content is source material I want into digital formats for play in a Verizon Fios environment with standard cable/internet/phone set up combined. Three HDMI inputs to into TV allows source switching from Fios, to BlueRay/VCR, to Apple TV and digital content can come in via Apple TV (FIOS currently only takes Windows into its computer connection options).
The time capsule is clearly a backup device and not a video/music/photo content platform the way I have been able to set it so far. The MacBook Pro Retina is not an always on available source and with only a 750 GB electronic drive wouldn’t have the capacity anyway to serve all the content I want. So I am looking at a Drobo 5 with a Crucial m4 mSATA 256GB 6GB/s in the accelerator bay plus 2T or more drives in the Drobo 5 bays. My thoughts were then to capture content on the BlueRay/VCR to BlackMagic Thunderbolt feeding it via Thunderbolt to the Drobo 5 right at the location my cable modem fiber comes into the house and the TV equipment is all set up. Once I have large amounts loaded on the Drobo 5 I would unplug it and move it to my office where I would plug the Drobo via Thunderbolt to the Mac Pro Retina and do the conversion and clean up from the raw Black Magic capture files. After I do that enough times to have the clean consolidated library on the Drobo 5 I would do the editing on the Mac Pro Retina in the office to any final summary content I want to prepare. But when not editing, I would leave the Drobo 5 by the TV set up and tie it to the Cable modem where it can wirelessly go to all locations I want to play content. I would through an Apple Mini agains the Drobo 5 to act as the Itumes and airplay control unit in the whole system.
Ok, a couple qualifying points before I am laughed off the forum. 1) I am newly switched from Windows less than three months ago; and 2) I am not a professional video guy at all; this is for hundreds of home movie type stuff and personal use. So be kind and make any suggestions.