Inside Chernobyl – Philip Grossman, Adventure Cinematographer

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Philip Grossman preparing to enter the highly radioactive basement of Chernobyl Hospital No. 126.

Philip Grossman’s diverse career spans engineering, cinematography, and a slightly worrying enthusiasm for nuclear disaster zones. His internationally recognized work in Chernobyl earned him exhibitions at the United Nations and hosting duties on Discovery Science Channel.

With over 20 years as a global media technology consultant, Philip has perfected the art of making even the most complex technology topics accessible and genuinely entertaining. Philip is an adjunct instructor for RED Digital Cinema and VP of Business Development and Solutions Architecture, DigitalGlue. His website is www.philipgrossman.com.

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Recently, I was introduced to Philip Grossman, documentarian, cinematographer, and media-geek. After reading his bio, I emailed him a series of questions to learn more about his work, his gear and his thoughts on the future of media. Here’s our interview.

Larry: Philip, welcome! How would you describe yourself?

Philip: I would say I am a systems thinker with a storyteller’s curiosity. I started out as a Nuclear Engineering major on a NROTC scholarship and then had a serious rock climbing accident that changed my trajectory to civil/architectural engineering. My dad was a surgeon and my mom an artist and I’m the middle child, so I’ve always been pulled between the creative and the technical.

I’ve spent the bulk of my career at the intersection of art and science. I’ve worked in senior technology/management roles for some of the biggest names in broadcast and entertainment, helping teams bring complex television and film projects to life through better workflows, infrastructure, and technology.

Site 250 (Launch Complex W), Baikonur Cosmodrome — built in the 1980s for the Soviet Buran shuttle. Though it never saw a fully operational shuttle launch, it remains a striking example of Soviet-era aerospace engineering designed to mirror and compete with NASA’s Shuttle infrastructure.

Aside from that, I’m a documentarian and visual journalist, drawn to the edges of geography, history, and humanity. From the exclusion zones of Chernobyl and Fukushima, to forgotten nuclear test sites in Semipalatinsk, abandoned Soviet space shuttles in Baikonur, and the remnants of conflict zones, I focus on locations where human ambition collided with unintended consequence. That focus led me to produce and host a show for the Discovery Science Channel, and later serve as a technical advisor on HBO’s Chernobyl, helping ensure the story’s accuracy matched the gravity of its subject.

I’m concerned with how stories influence knowledge, and with an engineer’s brain, deconstructing complexity and making it more usable/understandable, whether it is designing infrastructure storage for an editorial department or sketching out the human toll of nuclear waste. I attempt to offer accuracy and perspective — and found that the best solutions, technical or creative, often start with listening.

Larry: What is adventure cinematography?

Philip: Adventure cinematography is all about going where few others dare—or care—and coming back with the story. It’s not just making pretty pictures; it’s capturing the reality of remote places under precarious circumstances. For me, that’s meant shooting inside nuclear exclusion zones, crawling across enormous Soviet space debris, and trudging through solitary test complexes where the nearest sign of civilization is a warning sign.

Baikonur Cosmodrome, Site 112A — the Energia‑Buran Hazardous Servicing Facility (the MZK building), where vertical-ready stacks were fueled and safety checks performed. Today it’s a time capsule: inside sit both surviving Burnas — the test prototype OK‑ML (OK‑MT) and the nearly‑ready Orbiter 1.02 (“Burya”) — their doors welded shut by a stuck frame in the mid‑1990s. In the upper‑left background you can make out Site 110/37, the launch pad from which Energia flew the only Buran mission in November, 1988.

Part of what draws me to it is the challenge—figuring out how to get in, whether through the front door or a slightly more… creative route. I enjoy the process of navigating permissions, logistics, and the occasional grey area to get access to these places. My engineering background gives me a solid read on the risks—radiation levels, structural integrity, power constraints—while my production experience means I know how to adapt and get the shot, even when the conditions are far from ideal. It’s a mix of planning, improvisation, and staying calm when most people would’ve already packed it in or panicked.

Larry: What are some of the projects you’ve worked on?

Philip: Over the years, I’ve managed to blend a love for storytelling with a serious knack for tech—think less sci-fi fantasy, more Swiss Army knife with a camera and a server rack. My journey into film and television wasn’t exactly a straight line—it’s more of a scenic detour through civil engineering, enterprise consulting, and, eventually, the radioactive remains of history’s worst nuclear disaster.

One of the most defining projects of my career has been my long-term documentation of the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. What started as a “once in a lifetime” visit in 2011 turned into more than a dozen trips, over 120 days in the Zone, and more than 100 hours of footage. That work became the backbone of Chernobyl’s Deadly Secrets, an episode I produced and hosted for the Discovery Science Channel’s Mysteries of the Abandoned. It was a project equal parts filmmaking, field research, and the kind of obsessive documentation that only someone who used to design infrastructure for a living would think was fun.

My photos and video have gone on to be exhibited at the United Nations as part of the 30th anniversary remembrance of the disaster. Some of my material has also been licensed for projects like Shadowhunters (ABC/Freeform), Ridley Scott’s “Equals”, and Marvel’s “Legion.” HBO’s Chernobyl tapped into my work for reference and footage, and I ended up consulting with the show’s creator to help them get the details right and licensed material for the Epilogue of the show.

Filming in the Aral Sea basin during our expedition to locate Aralsk‑7 — the long-abandoned Soviet bioweapons testing site. Shot on a RED DSMC2 Helium 8K after a 20-mile hike into the Uzbek desert, surrounded by the rusting remains of a fleet that now sits high and dry, marooned by one of the planet’s worst environmental disasters.

On the technical side, I’ve spent two decades helping global media companies like ABC/Disney, Warner Bros., and SkyUK figure out how to store, edit, and distribute massive volumes of content, often under tight deadlines, and almost always with workflows that need to actually work. From designing remote editing platforms to rethinking storage architectures for 8K media, I’ve worked to make sure the creative process doesn’t get derailed by technical limitations.

In short, if it glows, flies, streams, or stores 500 terabytes of uncompressed footage, there’s a good chance I’ve worked on it, filmed it, or turned it into something worth watching.

Filming inside Middle School No. 3 in Pripyat — one of the most haunting interiors left in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. The floor is littered with hundreds of Soviet-era gas masks, scattered in the panicked evacuation that followed Reactor 4’s explosion. The camera is a custom RED Komodo, finished in “Grossman Gold.”

Larry: WHY did you decide to create a documentary on Chernobyl – and how did you visit the site safely?

Philip: Why Chernobyl? Well, it’s not every day you wake up and say, “You know what sounds fun? A vacation to the world’s worst nuclear disaster.” But for me, it started with a mix of curiosity, history, and, admittedly, a bit of an engineer’s compulsion to understand the “why” behind things that go terribly, terribly wrong.

I grew up just 11 miles from Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania—ground zero for America’s most infamous nuclear mishap. I still vividly remember sitting in Mrs. Murray’s third-grade class when the news broke. It wasn’t your typical school day, and that moment left a deep impression. Looking back, it was probably the start of my long-running fascination with nuclear energy. I even began college studying nuclear engineering before switching to civil—mostly because the reality of spending months underwater in a submarine seemed less exciting the more I thought about it.

When the 25th anniversary of Chernobyl came around in 2011, I had just turned 40 and found myself at a crossroads. I wasn’t sure the job I had at the time was what I wanted to be doing for the rest of my life. My girlfriend then—now wife—Elizabeth Hanson, suggested something radical: take a step back from the professional grind and focus on my passion for photography and filmmaking. At the same time, I couldn’t shake the pull I felt toward Chernobyl. My family had emigrated from Ukraine in the early 1900s, and I suspect that connection—however distant—played a role in drawing me there.

Inside the reactor hall of Chernobyl Unit 3 — standing directly above the RBMK‑1000 reactor core on its refueling floor, surrounded by the reactor’s iconic graphite channel caps. Unit 3 was the last operating reactor at Chernobyl, running until December 2000 despite sharing a turbine hall with the destroyed Unit 4. This shot was captured during filming for my Discovery Science Channel special — Mysteries of the Abandoned: Chernobyl’s Deadly Secrets — part of my ongoing work exploring the engineering aftermath of nuclear disaster.

So, while some guys mark a midlife milestone with a shiny sports car, I booked a trip to one of the most radioactive places on Earth. What I thought would be a one-time adventure quickly grew into something far more consuming. That first visit sparked a decade-long journey, with more than 120 days spent in the Exclusion Zone, dozens of interviews conducted, a collection of Geiger counters and dosimeters in my luggage that tended to raise a few eyebrows—and questions—at airport security

I didn’t go there to prove a new theory — those have been studied to death. I went because I wanted to see it for myself. To understand it. To speak with the people who were there and to document the long shadow that one night in April 1986 still casts today. As an engineer, reading someone else’s report is never quite enough. I needed first-hand data… in this case, captured through a lens rather than a spreadsheet.

Inside the control room of Chernobyl Unit 4 — where the 1986 safety test was carried out prior to the reactor failure. The room itself was not physically damaged in the explosion but was later stripped for parts to support the continued operation of Units 1–3. Captured during documentary production, this view shows the remaining original panels and layout of the RBMK-1000 control interface.

Back in those early days—before Chernobyl became a destination for guided tours and Instagram selfies—access was far from straightforward. Officially, visitors were always assigned a “minder,” someone to accompany and monitor your every move. On my first trip, I teamed up with Arkadiusz Podniesinski, who had the initial connections that helped open the door. Over the years, we’ve built on those relationships through mutual respect, shared meals, and a lot of conversation — sometimes long into the night.

One of our early guides, Sergey (and yes, it seems half of Ukraine is named Sergey), quickly became more of a friend than a chaperone. We’d bring along a small token of appreciation—just a gesture—and he, in turn, gave us the freedom to explore more deeply and document what others weren’t seeing. With time, we earned enough trust to access areas that had long been off-limits, not by pushing boundaries recklessly, but by investing in relationships and showing genuine care for the history we were trying to preserve.

Inside the sealed basement of Pripyat’s Hospital No. 126 — where first responders’ contaminated clothing from the 1986 Reactor 4 accident was dumped and remains; too radioactive to remove. This is one of the highest radiation zones in Pripyat, with garments still emitting dangerously elevated readings decades later.

As an engineer, I quickly dove into one of the most misunderstood aspects of Chernobyl: radiation. It’s a topic that sparks fear faster than it sparks understanding. Fortunately, I happen to live in the same city as Mirion Technologies, the global leader in radiation monitoring and safety equipment. Their tools, including the DMC-3000 dosimeter, have been a staple in my gear bag for years.

Over the course of my visits, I’ve owned and used a variety of dosimeters and Geiger counters, and I always closely monitor my exposure levels while in the Zone. In fact, one of the most surprising truths I try to share is that I often receive a higher radiation dose during the flight to Ukraine than I do on the ground in Chernobyl. I’ve even turned it into a bit of a field experiment — logging and comparing exposure levels in the air and on the ground to help people visualize the reality versus the perception. It’s not about minimizing the risks, but about putting them in context—something that I find both essential and oddly reassuring.

Aerial view over Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant. From top left to bottom right: Reactors 1–4, all heavily damaged in the 2011 earthquake, tsunami, and subsequent hydrogen explosions. Reactors 1 and 3 (top right and bottom right) lost their reactor buildings; Reactor 4’s building (bottom center) now supports a spent fuel removal structure. Ongoing decommissioning efforts are visible in the network of cranes, shielding, and containment.

I was also among the first to fly a multi-rotor drone in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone — back when drones were still in their infancy and largely misunderstood. This was the early era of DJI, just a few years after they launched, and much of the equipment had to be assembled or modified by hand. At the time, there weren’t many formal regulations around drone use in the Zone—mainly because most officials didn’t quite know what a drone was yet. That changed around 2016, when more structured rules began to take shape. But in those earlier years, the challenge was less about red tape and more about earning trust and demonstrating responsibility with unfamiliar technology. The aerial footage we captured offered entirely new views of a place frozen in time, helping to document its story from a perspective few had ever seen.

In the end, the goal was simple: to tell the story of Chernobyl not just through facts, but through faces, voices, and visuals that remind us this wasn’t just a technical failure—it was a deeply human one.

Standing before one of the two unfinished cooling towers built for Reactors 5 and 6 at Chernobyl — each planned to reach about 150 m tall with a 120–126 m diameter. Intended to support the third phase of RBMK‑1000 expansion, construction was halted in 1986 and formally cancelled by 1989.

Larry: What essential gear do you travel with – or do you rent everything for each project?

Philip: I generally own most of the gear I travel with, but I do rent when I want to test something new before committing. LensRentals.com has been a reliable partner for that. I joke with them sometimes — if a camera comes back glowing, it’s not defective, just deeply experienced. Being able to field-test gear in a place like Chernobyl has taught me more than any spec sheet ever could.

That said, I’ve always had a bit of a Boy Scout mindset — “always be prepared”—which has often translated into carrying way more equipment than I probably needed. In the early days, I’d pack gear for every possible contingency, which meant hauling 80 pounds through the Zone. Over the years, I’ve pared it down. I’d like to think it’s because I’ve become more efficient and experienced, but realistically, part of it is just not wanting to schlep a mobile production house on my back anymore.

I’ve cycled through a lot of gear over the years: starting with a Canon 5D Mark II and Panasonic TM700, then moving into the Sony FS7, GH4s, the RED DSMC2 Helium, and a collection of DJI drones and stabilizers. Every piece had its time and place—each solving a specific problem or allowing me to push the visuals in a new direction. But technology changes fast, and experience teaches you what actually earns its weight.

These days, I typically travel with a RED Komodo. I love it because it’s small and lightweight, but still delivers cinematic quality. Its global shutter is a huge advantage, especially when filming in unstable environments where rolling shutter can ruin a shot. Even better, the built-in gyros paired with the Gyroflow plugin have made it possible to leave the gimbal at home most trips. It’s a little more work in post, sure, but it means fewer batteries to manage, fewer delicate parts to pack, and a more agile setup overall.

Preparing for an early return to the basement of Hospital No. 126 in Pripyat. Wearing a P100-rated respirator and carrying a custom 15,000-lumen LED light for low-visibility work in high-contamination zones. This expedition produced some of the first—if not the first—4K footage shot inside the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone.

Alongside the RED, I usually bring a mirrorless camera—lately that’s been the Canon R5. It’s become my go-to for still photography, offering a great balance of image quality and portability. In a pinch, it’s also capable of shooting 8K RAW, which is incredibly handy when I need high-resolution video and don’t have time to grab the Komodo. That said, its rolling shutter is pretty awful—so I use it sparingly for motion work. Still, it’s one of those “just in case” tools that fits with my Boy Scout mindset. When space is tight or a quick shot presents itself, having the R5 ready means I don’t miss the moment.

One of the hardest decisions on any trip is which lenses to bring. You never really know what you’ll be up against — whether it’s needing to reach something far off in the distance with a long zoom, or squeezing into a dark, cramped room where only a fast, wide lens will do. Lately, I’ve started using the Canon 28-300mm, which gives me an impressive range in a single lens and lets me leave both the 70-200 and 24-70 at home. I usually pair that with a 16-35mm for those wide shots, and depending on the location, I might throw in a fast prime or two. I’m still holding out for someone to invent the mythical 10mm-to-1000mm carbon fiber lens—but until then, this combination keeps things flexible enough to handle the unexpected.

I also carry compact action cameras like GoPros for time-lapse or spontaneous B-roll, and a drone system I’ve tested and refined over time for stability and ease of use. And while I still build in redundancies—extra storage, power, and media—I’ve gotten better at knowing what genuinely contributes to the story and what’s just adding weight.

Renting still plays a role, especially when I’m curious about something new or planning a shoot with a unique requirement. But for most trips, I want equipment I know inside and out. The learning curve should happen long before I step foot in a place like the Exclusion Zone. Gear, for me, is never about collecting the latest toys — it’s about finding the tools that disappear in your hands so you can focus entirely on telling the story. And if a camera gets a little radioactive in the process… well, that’s just a good excuse to keep it.

Storage is always one of the trickiest challenges on these kinds of trips. As camera resolutions have climbed from HD to 4K and now 8K, the data demands have followed suit—exponentially. Meanwhile, SSD capacities seem to have hit a wall around 8TB, which sounds like a lot until you start filling cards with raw 8K footage in the middle of a shoot. I’ve been experimenting with lighter workflows—ideally traveling without a laptop and managing everything through an iPad—but that’s still a work in progress. Balancing portability with reliability and data integrity is a constant puzzle. I’m always testing new configurations to find something that’s both bulletproof and backpack-friendly, but I haven’t cracked the perfect system yet.

Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Plant, located just 12 kilometers south of its more infamous neighbor, Fukushima Daiichi. This four-reactor complex was struck by the same 2011 earthquake and tsunami, but unlike Daiichi, Daini avoided meltdown through rapid response and emergency systems that held the line.

Larry: What key insights have you learned in creating documentaries?

Philip: One of the most important lessons I’ve learned is that all documentaries carry bias. We’re human — most of us begin with an idea or a point of view and construct the narrative around it. That’s why I’ve always taken the longer route: immersing myself deeply in the subject first and letting the story reveal its own shape. In my case, that meant nearly eight years in and out of the Chernobyl Zone before Chernobyl’s Deadly Secrets aired. I like to say I let the story find me.

My time working on the Discovery Science Channel special was pivotal. That’s when I was first exposed to structured storytelling—three-act, five-act frameworks—all of which I now analyze when watching feature films. Unfortunately, it’s ruined my entertainment: I can’t stop dissecting everything I see.

Another key realization is that curiosity trumps certainty. Initially, I thought a few trips and a folder full of footage would make the story. Instead, the nuance came through extended engagement—dozens of interviews, repeated visits, time in the field—allowing contradictions, surprises, and unexpected threads to emerge. True insight comes when you’re patient enough to let people—and places—breathe.

Standing atop the Duga over‑the‑horizon radar—about 150 m (500 ft) tall and nearly 700 m long—a Cold War system known as the “Russian Woodpecker.” Built in the mid‑1970s, it never functioned as intended and was shut down after Chernobyl. I climbed this rusting steel giant during filming, gear and all, much to the dismay of my wife—she wasn’t thrilled I scaled a 70‑year‑old Soviet engineering relic that probably never worked. The plant remains visible in the distance.

Technically, I discovered early on that bit depth and dynamic range matter more than ever-increasing resolution. Moving from HD to 4K to native 8K (with tools like RED cameras) taught me that megapixels are overrated if your camera can’t handle contrast or shadow detail. It’s precision—not specs—that elevates visual storytelling in difficult environments.

Choosing collaborators was another revelation. Working with Ping Pong Productions—who produced the Chernobyl special for Science Channel—gave the project a professional backbone and structure I couldn’t have managed alone. They grounded the story in cinematic pacing and clarity, while still allowing me to maintain the subject-driven, exploratory approach I favor.

And of course, patience is the filmmaker’s strongest tool—both creatively and technically. Letting projects unfold, testing tools in the field, adapting mid-course—that slow evolution builds resilience in the final product. If there’s one thing I hope my work demonstrates, it’s that authenticity arises not by forcing a narrative, but by listening long enough for it to change shape in your hands.

In the end—documentaries are inherently imperfect reflections—but approached with humility, curiosity, structure, and technical care, they can become deeply honest and resonant. What you hope for is to be a steward, not a sculptor, trusting the story to teach you, and trusting your craft to let it speak.

At Baikonur’s Site 112A stands the full‑scale Energia engineering mock‑up—used extensively to develop fueling procedures and crew/test hardware integration. Just behind it sits Orbiter 2K (Ptichka or “Burya”)—built to about 95–97 % completion for an autonomous Mir docking mission. It never flew.

Larry: In your work with DigitalGlue, you spent time “optimizing workflows for media-heavy environments.” What does that mean and how can independent filmmakers benefit from your insights?

Philip: When I talk about optimizing workflows for media-heavy environments, I’m drawing on decades of experience helping workflows manage ever-growing footage volumes — from standard-definition to 4K, 8K, and beyond. The challenge isn’t just high-resolution cameras — it’s being able to scale storage, preserve integrity, and prevent workflow breakdowns when everyone’s backing up drives or re-linking media three times to make edits.

A core baseline I rely on is the 3‑2‑1 backup approach: always keep at least three copies of footage (if possible) , on two different types of media, with one copy off-site. That discipline alone protects against drive failures, file corruption, or unforeseen disasters—especially critical when working independently or on thin crews. At the very least keep two copies.

Managing footage across SSD and HDD tiers presents a curious challenge: while SSDs have plateaued at capacities around 8 TB, modern cameras are now outputting exponentially more data—from HD to 4K to 8K RAW, where 2–3 TB per hour isn’t uncommon. The obsession with drive speed is often overrated if misaligned with your workflow.

For instance, if you’re shooting H.264 4K, you don’t need a blazing 3500 MB/s NVMe SSD—something far slower will do. But try editing 8K RAW off a hard drive capable of only 250 MB/s and you’ll quickly find it chokes. Instead, understanding your codec’s bandwidth needs is essential: match your drive performance to your footage, not the other way around.

Over decades of workflow design, I’ve learned to balance portable SSDs for editing, high-capacity HDD arrays for bulk storage, and even LTO tape for long-term safekeeping—so you’re not paying for speed you don’t use. Building redundancy, employing checksum validation, and choosing the right tier of media helps prevent confusion in post-production and ensures your storage strategy keeps pace with your creative ambitions.

Inside the Energia-Buran Dynamic Test Stand at Baikonur. This full-scale Energia booster was used for structural and systems integration testing—not flight. The complex surrounding scaffolding and mockup payload adapters were critical to validating fit, load paths, and ground processing flows ahead of the 1988 Buran mission.

LTO‑9 tape is finally something independent filmmakers should keep an eye on. For years, tape backup was prohibitively expensive—both drives and media—and capacities were too small to justify the cost. Now, however, Thunderbolt‑connected LTO‑9 drives offer a native 18 TB per tape, with cartridges costing around US $100–$170, making it a genuinely viable way to archive media securely—especially when compared to fragile spinning drives or limited-capacity SSDs.

Though the hardware isn’t cheap, these systems deliver a projected 30+ year lifespan. That kind of archive reliability—coupled with strong longevity and portability—is increasingly accessible to small teams who need bulletproof backup without breaking the bank

Good media workflows also rely on strong media organization and metadata practices. Tagging, consistent folder naming, and checksum-based integrity checks make it much easier to locate footage later—or confirm data hasn’t changed. Simple asset management can make a huge difference in long-term accessibility.

For independent filmmakers, these workflow principles translate directly:

What independent creators gain by applying these insights is clarity: a media pipeline that doesn’t fracture under data load, a system that keeps your footage safe and searchable, and a workflow that lets you focus on storytelling instead of scrambling to find lost clips or fix corrupted files. Over decades, I’ve learned that well-planned media management isn’t glamorous—but it frees up space to be creative and resilient in your craft.

Capturing Ptichka—the second Soviet orbiter—inside the Energia-Buran Hazardous Servicing Facility at Baikonur. This nearly flight-ready shuttle was part of the USSR’s short-lived spaceplane program. To get this shot, I hauled 75 pounds of gear—including a RED DSMC2 8K—28 miles across the Kazakh desert. Turns out filming Cold War relics isn’t always as glamorous as it sounds.

Larry: You are an adjunct instructor for RED Digital Cinema. They seem to be very quiet these days. What’s going on with the company and are their cameras still relevant to production today?

Philip: RED has always been a true cinema camera company—not a broadcast fixture. The reality is that broadcast is in a slump: linear TV viewership is down, and advertising revenue is shrinking. That has forced producers to look for new ways to reinvigorate storytelling, and that means embracing cinema-grade imagery even in live or episodic formats. Cinematic tools offer depth of field, color richness, and emotional resonance many traditional broadcast cameras simply can’t deliver.

RED has quietly doubled down on this trend. Since being acquired by Nikon in April 2024, the company has merged its cinema sensor technology with Nikon’s manufacturing scale and lens/autofocus expertise—positioning it well to support cinema-quality workflows in broadcast environments. RED’s newer models now aim to push full-frame, global-shutter, high-dynamic range tools into areas where broadcasters want cinematic visuals. At the same time, broadcasters hungry for more visual depth—live events, reality shows, even news magazine segments—are increasingly turning toward cinema cameras for their aesthetic value.

It’s still early for them (and their competitors) in this space as can be seen by the “add-ons” as opposed to fully integrated broadcast solutions. But RED has recently released a SMPT fiber back which is a huge step into the broadcast space. I suspect they will have a “purpose” built model in the next year or so for Cinema Broadcast.

Looking at market evolution, RED remains relevant and no longer seen as just “unique”. Competitors like Sony, Canon, Blackmagic, and others now offer full-frame, RAW-capable cameras with mature autofocus and efficient workflows. RED cameras continue to shine for projects that need cinematic latitude, filmic frame rates, and long-term codec architectures. The Nikon acquisition may help RED lower hardware costs and access better lens support.

This frame was pulled from an 8K RED DSMC2 file—one of the key reasons I invested in that camera. Each frame is a 35MP image, giving me the ability to capture both high-resolution stills and motion simultaneously. The subject is Ptichka, the second Buran orbiter, resting in the Energia-Buran Hazardous Servicing Facility. The image is haunting like a shot from a sci-fi film, only this set was built for real.

Larry: You’ve worked in strategic roles at ABC/Disney, ESPN, and SkyUK. As you know, the traditional media industry is in a funk right now. For folks that still want to earn a living telling stories with pictures, what trends should we pay attention to?

Philip: I’ve been fortunate—or perhaps just stubborn—to spend time in places like ABC/Disney, ESPN, and SkyUK. And if there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that the media world is basically a game of musical chairs played on a carousel… while blindfolded.

Yes, “content is king” still applies, but the kingdom looks more like a flea market than a throne room. The number of hours in the day hasn’t changed, but the competition for attention has. People used to sit down at 8 p.m. and watch whatever you told them to. Now they’re watching squirrel parkour on TikTok while listening to a podcast about Viking diets. And you’re expected to cut through that nois with a budget that’s been duct-taped together since Q2.

But there is one thing that’s arguably easier today: distribution.

“Back in the day,” getting your story out there meant getting past the big three gatekeeper—ABC, CBS, NBC. That was our Mount Everest. Then cable came along and gave us a few more sherpas, but they were still picky about who got to climb. Now? If you’ve got a story, a smartphone, and Wi-Fi, you can publish to the world. YouTube, TikTok, Rumble, Instagram—pick your flavor. The gatekeepers haven’t vanished, but they’ve been replaced by something more egalitarian (if occasionally more chaotic): the algorithm.

So for creators, There is hope:

  1. Niche is Noble. You don’t need ten million viewers. What you really need is a few thousand people who genuinely connect with what you’re making—people who see your work and think, “This is for me.” Focus on building that kind of loyal audience. Serve them consistently, listen to them, and they’ll stick with you. Maybe even tell a few friends. And in today’s landscape, that kind of relationship is more valuable than any viral spike
  2. Distribution is (Relatively) Free. You don’t need a satellite uplink or a contract with a major network anymore. What you need is a clear message and a place to share it. The space is crowded, no doubt—but access has never been easier. With the right story and a bit of consistency, you can reach an audience directly. Just be mindful of the platform rules—and make sure you’re offering something people actually want to watch.
  3. Tech is Cheaper, Workflows Matter. Today’s tools make it easy to create professional content from just about anywhere—even your kitchen table. But that convenience can lead to clutter if you’re not careful. Staying organized—whether it’s your footage, edits, or file names—saves time and frustration down the road. A little structure now makes everything run smoother later.
  4. Monetization is a Puzzle, Not a Pipe. There are more ways than ever to earn a living from your content—through ads, subscriptions, crowdfunding, licensing, or direct commissions. It may not come from a single source, and that’s okay. Stay open to different opportunities, and think long-term. Building a sustainable creative career today often means having a few revenue streams working together.

Traditional media is going through real change—some of it uncomfortable, some of it long overdue. But with that comes opportunity. If you have a story to tell and the persistence to connect with your audience, the barriers to entry are lower than they’ve ever been. You don’t need permission. You just need to start, share your work, and keep showing up.

Somewhere in the middle of the dried-up Aral Sea after hiking 25 miles into the desert—during the day, which every survival guide tells you not to do. By nightfall, I had a sleeping bag, a satellite phone, and the creeping realization I might’ve made a few poor choices. I called my wife and said everything was fine. Years later, she told me she could tell it absolutely wasn’t. Confidence is not a replacement for planning—especially when you’re racing the sun across a dead sea.

Larry: Between US politics and economy, the hollowing out of traditional media and rising competition from AI and other countries, it is easy to get depressed. What gives you reason for hope that we will come through this?

Philip: I’m an optimist at heart, and much of that optimism was forged on location—in places where the unexpected is just part of the routine. Over more than a decade of documenting Chernobyland trekking through the Kazakh steppe to film Soviet-era shuttles in Baikonur’s abandoned test facilities, I learned this: real growth comes from leaning into the unknown, not retreating from it. Navigating those environments taught me that strength emerges under pressure, not comfort.

When I look around—political swings, fragile markets, media upending, AI advancing at lightning speed, and global competition mounting, I don’t feel discouraged, I feel stirred. Because I’ve seen firsthand how pressure reveals opportunity. Whether it was carrying heavy gear into disused hangars or improvising power solutions after hours in the void, every logistical challenge sharpened my focus—and built my confidence and clarity of purpose.

That aligns closely with intellectual frameworks I’ve absorbed over time. The idea is simple: systems, be they individuals, industries, or economies that are not sheltered, but tested, become more resilient. Like muscles subjected to resistance training, we grow stronger when challenged intentionally and thoughtfully. That’s the essence of being “antifragile”and I’ve experienced it in the field.

I remember feeling that spark most vividly while filming a Soviet orbiter in a deserted Baikonur hangar. The shuttle may have decayed, but the story roared. Shooting in such silence taught me that greatness often lingers in what remains not just what shines. And just like creators now discovering new platforms and storytelling formats, those relics became catalysts for fresh narratives, renewed purpose, and deeper understanding.

My hope isn’t rooted in optimistic fantasy—it’s grounded in evidence and embodied by people doing the work. I see investment flowing into infrastructure, automated systems, new distribution models, and economic forecasts driven by innovation. I see creators and technologists stepping into disruption instead of retreating and building something leaner and more meaningful as a result.

So, yes, the world today is uncertain, but I do not perceive collapse. I perceive rugged landscape waiting for creativity and reinvention. I perceive media innovators, storytellers, and strategic thinkers arising in the cracks. I perceive an opportunity to create deeper connection and long-term resilience.

From threading through exclusion zones to collaborating in distant, deserted launch pads, I’ve learned this: turbulence is not the end—it’s the forge. And if we enter challenges with intention, preparedness, and ingenuity, we do not merely survive, we become stronger iterations of ourselves.

That’s why I remain hopeful. Because purpose earned in the field endures, and adaptability refined under pressure paves the way forward. The next chapter isn’t just possible, it’s waiting to be built.

Halfway through a 28-mile hike to the Buran hangar, I passed the remains of Site 241—an R‑36‑O FOBS missile complex dismantled in the early ’80s under SALT II. Carrying 70-80  lbs of gear in my 70L f-stop Sukha pack, including the RED DSMC2 8K and food and water for 3 days. The route required navigating around active Russian military patrols after dark—adding a layer of anxiety to an already long day.


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7 Responses to Inside Chernobyl – Philip Grossman, Adventure Cinematographer

  1. Mike Janowski says:

    Larry, GREAT interview!! I learned so much, and Phillip is such an engrossing thinker! This should be a primer for anyone wanting to successfully navigate the documentary, or any entertainment, space.

    One tech issue: on my Samsung S20 Ultra phone running Android 13, when I go “back” from viewing a picture, I get booted back NOT to the article, but to your email. A bit inconvenient…

    • Larry says:

      Mike:

      Yeah, I found this interview to be captivating, which is why I was so excited to finally share it with you.

      As for image links, I’m using standard HTML code (“target-“_blank”) to open a second window to display the image, which means the “go back” button on your web browser should take you back. Try it on a desktop and see. I don’t know – and have never used – a mobile specific command for this.

      Larry

  2. Constance Beutel says:

    Completely absorbing discussion! Thank you,

  3. Teresa Kim says:

    Thank you, Larry. This is so interesting and it’s obvious a lot of work went into it!

  4. Eleanore says:

    Thank you Larry and Philip! That an absorbing and informative interview. This was a lovely balance between tech, storytelling, and emotion. I really appreciate you sharing this story.

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